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The Not So Perfect Couple Podcast


Sep 16, 2019

Can conflict be a good thing for couples? This week Paddy and Sam sit-down with CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke and talk about this exact topic. You've heard the Not So Perfect Couple talk about conflict in the past, but now they've got two more amazing people talking about it with them. 

CrisMarie Campbell, an Olympic rower and Boeing flight test engineer, and Susan Clarke, a former family therapist and equus coach, are the authors of The Beauty of Conflict: Harnessing Your Team’s Competitive Advantage and their forthcoming book The Beauty of Conflict for Couples. As partners in work and life for over two decades, they’ve adapted their proven step-by-step process honed working with Fortune 100 Companies such as Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft, AT&T and Nationwide to help long-term couples use conflict as a catalyst to greater intimacy, passion, and fulfillment.

Take a listen to this amazing conversation, and then take Sam and Paddy up on the invite to go to Montana with them to visit CrisMarie and Susan...they invited themselves, so we might as well all join them?